North -star star Brit Lower opens to Helly’s big twist – El

Here, lower conversations with ELLE.com about this staggering twist, Helena’s relationship with Mark and how Indemnity made her think differently about her own identity.

How do you feel part of, in my opinion, one of the biggest mindfucks on television?

What is so fascinating is that everyone has a different connection to the show. This rattles people in different ways and part of this, in my opinion, is that these characters represent this archetyp energy that you find in different places that are not just your office. You take on different roles in your family, take different roles in a team or classroom, and sometimes these roles change based on who is in this team with you. So it is really fascinating to hear what people are attracted to the show, whether these are the visual aspects or the scientific fiction element or the truly human journey of self -disclosure of all these characters.

In episode 4, we find that Heli has been her external, Helena since she returned to the office. Dan Erickson [the show creator] Preface this to you before you get the script, or was that a surprise?

The rainbow of the season was something we discussed a while ago, and it was another puzzle we built together. I’ll just keep using so many metaphors in this interview because I think it’s useful, but the one I like to lean on is that it’s Adobe Photoshop [image] And this is the same person and we use the same output material, but it is about modulating the saturation or level of exposure within that person. My job as an actor is to sculpt this inner life.

And then we have an amazing team of designers and hair and makeup costumes, and the way he is lit, informs how to visually take the character, and then my job is to get into the perspective of this character and try to behave righteously in The framework of them imaginary circumstances. Helena’s work in this case is to try to combine in this family, [which] She has never experienced in real time before, but there is part of it. This inner child, an unruly part of her, was with these people before and I felt like it was a really interesting experience.

As a viewer, I had suspicions in the first episode when the band was talking about what they saw from the outside and Helly did not say what he saw.

At the end of the day I will use another metaphor, but they sound like different music inside me, those two parts of the same person. This is the same musician, but maybe different albums and whether or not you recognize this music or not is up to you. They are at different levels of suspicion or not.

Why is Helena there like herself? Is it just a mall for the board or is there something inside that calls it in this environment?

I think this is a question that I have to remain silent.

Okay, I understand.

[Laughs] It’s like an obstacle course that makes these interviews with this particular show because fans and viewers want to know, but there is this feeling of: “But don’t tell me!” And so I’ll leave it there.

“The two just have some relationship at the end of the day,” Dolen says of Heli and Mark.

Well, when your character is in the tent with Mark and they sleep together, what attracts her to him?

This is a person who is quite isolated in her external life and has to live in a very special way within this company. She has a really strange dad and you can extrapolate what her life should be based on. Even this last episode of Season 1, I tried to come to Helena with a lot of empathy on the basis of her father alone. This man is not very nourishing, which is why here is in this environment where Mark and Irving and Dylan are so open and the relationship Helly R. has won from Season 1, Helena is trying to experience this. I don’t think she ever had such a relationship throughout her life, or if she had, she had to back away from her because of the pressure of her life within this company. I think this is a truly human experience, what they go through, or what they are experiencing together.

In the same way that Incen Heli R. and Ini Mark have this natural poster that have been growing since the beginning of Season 1, this sense of humor is not lost inside Helena. She still has this strong will, of this intelligent humor that Mark is responsible to. The two just have some connection at the end of the day.

I would like to know what it is like to shoot this episode because you are in the mountains, outside the office. Where did you shoot?

We were shooting, I think for four or five weeks in New York State in Minevask State Park and it was completely breathtaking. The views were just inspiring. It made sense that we were doing something really different from what we had done before. Obviously, we have long been in this fluorescent cabinet with a low ceiling, and suddenly there is no ceiling and this expansion …. we are shooting an episode for building a team and I think it has this effect on us as well as the actors. It was only we competed against the sun. Every day it was a different experience than being in a studio where the lighting is harmless.

Zack Cherry like Dylan, Adam Scott as Mark, Britt Like Hellei and John Turburro as Irving in IndemnityS

It was a real work retreat, somehow.

Completely. And for me, it was personally exciting to wear something different from a tights and heels.

What was it like to get John Turturro to immerse you under water for these last few scenes?

I just felt incredible luck that I was working with John, who is such an experienced professional and someone I really trust in person and professionally. Again the elements were dangerous. We were in a really cold weather and we were on ice rocks. We worked a lot to make sure we were physically safe and then we can let the performance really reach the depth it had to go to. But John is an incredible artist and my role model – the way he takes care of the people on the set and the way he brings such a level of honesty in telling stories.

It was interesting how Irving was able to understand that Heli was Helena. What did this tell you about Irving’s relationship with Helly?

I think this says something about their relationship certainly and there is a lot of tenderness between the two characters, which blooms in season 1. There is something that he clock in Season 2, which is slightly off. And his training, in my opinion, as his foreign person gives him this ability to reconstruct and really notice what can be different.

In Season 1, the show was particularly touching the way he talks about office culture. What stood out for what Indemnity Is it commenting on Season 2?

I can speak from my point of view of the things I have moved from. It is this self -instruction that happens for all the characters in Season 1, to explore their identity and whether the work they do has some meaning. And then, after they began to open these questions, Season 2 becomes related to their relationship with other people and opens their hearts to the people around them. There is more bet when asked, WEll, now that I have an idea who I am, who I am in how I show up for the people I love?

What would you say that it was set for Heli?

I just think about season 1 … Helly has nothing to lose in any way, so her trip to get out of Lumo at all costs, especially when this company breaks her autonomy and free will, she knows exactly what she wants – and then she starts to It has this connection with this chosen family. So what is set is the love that she experiences for each of them and how they have changed their own identity. It’s like, I’m not just an independent mission person to find my own freedom. I also take care of these other people and their humanity.

Working on a project like this and inhabiting characters like these should be as much opening of the eyes when it comes to existential topics of: “Who are you, really?” There is the person you are outside and the person you are from inside and is So interesting to see how someone can still gravitate to the same people – or act completely different – in two different environments. Worked on Indemnity For two seasons, you now force you to consider your own identity or who are you as a person?

At the moment, I think about how you just have a different frequency with different people in your life. There are different rhythms you take with your family than with someone you just met against someone you played with football when you were a child. There will just be different things that different people bring out of you and I think this also applies to the environments you are in. That’s a real thing, isn’t it? We parted ways and everyone has those different layers that they present in different parts of their lives.

This interview was edited and condensed for clarity.

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